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    Tom Scott

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    4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: cscodes.info/level/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha
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Tom Scott
Tom Scott

I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...

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Culiynl
Culiynl

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RanMind YT
RanMind YT

why do you private your videos before you upload them

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Michael Conroy
Michael Conroy

How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.

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NoobKing
NoobKing

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PrxjectMeme
PrxjectMeme

Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?

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rickvian test
rickvian test

well, you can with css transition

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Gerson Rendón
Gerson Rendón

This comment has 0 likes

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sparkieT88
sparkieT88

my favorite is when a progress bar says 2 years remaining

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Gurds2702 Gaming & Unboxing
Gurds2702 Gaming & Unboxing

1:24 holy hell wow

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JMUDoc
JMUDoc

Tom shouldo do a video on why progress bars EVER show 100%. 100% is the END!

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DAGGERRFW
DAGGERRFW

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noisewater
noisewater

1:23

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Adolfas Ramanauskas
Adolfas Ramanauskas

At some point looked at the title and noticed the bar made out of symbols... mf thought Tom somehow managed to make it move with accordance with the video

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Ari Mermelstein
Ari Mermelstein

Before I watched the video, my answer to this was going to be that the existence of a program figuring out how long another program takes to run contradicts the undecidability of the halting problem, so no such program could possibly exist. But you were going for more of a “why isn’t it perfect.”

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Ben Armstead
Ben Armstead

I paused the video after the 1:24 mark, you have no power over me

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Derrick Bonsell
Derrick Bonsell

Questions you no doubt have but can't remember how to vocalize.

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kiwi8 ?
kiwi8 ?

Who dislikes this??

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leatherlip05
leatherlip05

Progress bars shouldn't even be a thing, false hope

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Devin du Plessis
Devin du Plessis

4:48 don’t try to reboot the machine just because you think it’s crap.

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thelazywhitedog
thelazywhitedog

10 minutes->2 hours-> 16 days-> 2 years-> 5 minutes-> 40 seconds-> 13 years-> 1 second-> start again from the top

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Elliot Nilsson
Elliot Nilsson

Steam says that a game will be done in 2 days but actually completes it in 20 mins

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The Dragon Of Canada
The Dragon Of Canada

"Some files are bigger than others" I would've died if it said *DickPix . Png*

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William Napitupulu
William Napitupulu

🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ LOADING....

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Geomontage
Geomontage

If only the UK government had a progress bar. I struggle to believe things are still 'happening' at times we are told great 'progress' is being made.

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ver strahlt
ver strahlt

well explained.

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Sandstorm930
Sandstorm930

Sandstorm approved use of “Janky”

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tulsatrash
tulsatrash

What is the longest rail train to have ever moved in or through France?

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Kreyk 29
Kreyk 29

The reason why don't they move smoothly is that they are not straight, we look at them and don't even think about the third dimension

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szubert - max
szubert - max

1:57 maybe 4 different loading bars? For each process?

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Philippe Futureboy
Philippe Futureboy

I didn’t expect that Tom Scott.exe could be rebooted. The more you know 🌟

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theawesomness07
theawesomness07

Among Us downloading task be like: Estimated time: 4 days *2 seconds later* Estimated time: 6 seconds

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Christoph Southwell
Christoph Southwell

Gosh Tom, call me out why don't you!

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ike
ike

I like to combine the speed in rate of transfer or time remaining while also having my harddrive light & CPU task manager to see which is bottle-necking at what point. This is a form of entertainment I guess

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flex
flex

I love the bars that stop at 100% for 10 minutes or so

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Paulo Lukeny
Paulo Lukeny

What is this golden piece of chanel that just dropped on my recommendations, SUBBED!

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Windows 10X
Windows 10X

It’s actually placebo its jus randomly stoping at random intervals and thats why it stops at 99% cuz it’s actually at 70% or 50% or maybe even 30%

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SuperPlayer56 Gaming
SuperPlayer56 Gaming

Things to do do, to make progress bar faster: Buy an ssd Upgrade ram (and probably buy more ram than you have on a computer) Buy better proccesor Buy better router/modem and get faster internet Buy faster hdd(s) Install linux Congratulations!!! Your game/program now loads/downloads/installs faster!

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dick harambe
dick harambe

Working on updates 2% complete 1 hour later Working on updates 10% complete Working on updates 100% complete

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Ruelle Heroux
Ruelle Heroux

Can i express how perfectly aligned the timer is in video to the YouTube timer?

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ProHolmes
ProHolmes

I just like windows' there are 7 years left for finish copying your files. While showing me the speed and amount of data left, which definitely won't be 7 years if i divide data amount by speed.

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shmo247
shmo247

Modern warfare updates: 1%.......2%.........not enough storage delete 148gb of data

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Thot Slayer 420
Thot Slayer 420

what about a 2D progress block, width for data (so maybe mb or gb) and height for file count, never seen one, just thought of it

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kalle anka
kalle anka

Best solution would be to put a title to every segemt of the progress bar. Anyone who watches porn on the hub will have found this out. If you dont care about foreplay you know exactly on te second to skip to, to skip that part. So for a progress bar for a install. Just title the segement so that we know what part the computer is working on and we know what we might think of upgrading

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RamennBowls
RamennBowls

"The most important job is to reassure that yes, things are happening, progress it being made" That moment when the progress bar is stuck at 99% for about 28 minutes...

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Reese606
Reese606

The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one And no, not the blue one The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop

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Ask Master
Ask Master

100% ... Restarting... 30% .... ... .. 58% ............... 79% ................ 100% .................................................................... Aaaaand it crashed

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Adam Cogley
Adam Cogley

Steam

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gunship sequel budyboy
gunship sequel budyboy

you should create a program that changes the line on the video

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YaBoy •
YaBoy •

Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving

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Vex989
Vex989

Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left

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agustinbs
agustinbs

Are you reporting from 1998?

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DG Secret
DG Secret

Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move

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Peto
Peto

0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????

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KoGa
KoGa

"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.

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Rory M
Rory M

Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.

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P Church
P Church

This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember

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GigaGame
GigaGame

who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously

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YY YELLOW
YY YELLOW

Why this guy is soo much underrated

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karehaqt
karehaqt

Good old Microsoft Minutes

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Deconimus
Deconimus

How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?

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KysterPSY
KysterPSY

Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.

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Pat Smash
Pat Smash

My loading bar just goes backwards

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Chane
Chane

looking at you STEAM

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A Skellington
A Skellington

LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%

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Yajihba
Yajihba

Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down

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Lordlouckster
Lordlouckster

Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!

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Hasan A
Hasan A

The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.

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Sideways
Sideways

This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅

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Eeee
Eeee

Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*

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Viktória Vadon
Viktória Vadon

I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!

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Frog 4096
Frog 4096

3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10

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Samson Kinyanjui
Samson Kinyanjui

/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / / 10more years ///////// / / / / / / / / / / / 30more seconds

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Riley Carpenter
Riley Carpenter

Content

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mozl83
mozl83

That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).

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Cameron Figgins
Cameron Figgins

Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally

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Zari Hanssen
Zari Hanssen

Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours

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Butter of Sorrow
Butter of Sorrow

Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.

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French Comprehensible Input
French Comprehensible Input

100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂

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Helio Gonzalez
Helio Gonzalez

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Silksong Date
Silksong Date

4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp

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SoftBunnyCreations Vibing
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing

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pencilchat
pencilchat

my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.

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Zoltan
Zoltan

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Eugene Lo
Eugene Lo

Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is

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AvoidCypress
AvoidCypress

is this the guy who says “xnyopit”

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fossar _
fossar _

Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.

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Tomáš Lipták
Tomáš Lipták

I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.

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youtubeusername
youtubeusername

Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video

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The cheese
The cheese

Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.

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Pawit Ninnabodee
Pawit Ninnabodee

The absent water posteriorly impress because lion constitutively polish worth a hapless priest. determined, rotten kite

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RanMind YT
RanMind YT

What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load

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Leo Telles
Leo Telles

You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!

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AK Nephtali
AK Nephtali

The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!

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SYS
SYS

A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.

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BlurryPirate
BlurryPirate

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Phill Wainewright
Phill Wainewright

Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.

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Stipe Poljak
Stipe Poljak

Intro music from the Chase?

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HowDeeDoo
HowDeeDoo

Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.

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whadup
whadup

I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁

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Kebbo
Kebbo

coomrag

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John Southfield
John Southfield

The gaudy grip monthly hand because relish spectacularly apologise through a private cost. watery, pricey continent

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Lambor_ghini
Lambor_ghini

Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..

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Bubba Games
Bubba Games

The video progress bar is half a second off

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